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	<title>Comments on: Andrew Meyer: Loser</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.commonfolkusingcommonsense.com/2007/09/19/andrew-meyer-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-28941</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest -- yes, it probably was a publicity stunt.  Yes, he was an attention-seeking whore.  However, I still feel that he was exercising his right to Free Speech.  If you listened to the video, he asked three distinct questions:

1) Why did you conceed the presidential elections with 5 million votes uncounted for?

2) Why don&#039;t you support impeaching President Bush?

3) Isn&#039;t it true you were a part of the same secret society as George Bush?

He&#039;s establishing the basis for a conspiracy theory and, not that I&#039;m a conspirist, but these all sound like an example of redressing the government of grievances.

In the long run, it was a public forum on private property -- even though he broke the forum rules by being loud and going over his time limit, that makes him an asshole, not a criminal.  The charges initially stated by the police officer on the video were &#039;Inciting a Riot&#039; leading me to believe that the police were reacting first and thinking later.

Granted, I&#039;m not a big Kerry Supporter or Democrat (as this guy seemed to be); however, I feel what he did is a valid form of protest.  Having become somewhat of a Second Amendment activist myself recently, I&#039;m willing to afford someone the support of their constitutionally protected rights (as assninely executed as they were) as I would hope someone would offer me when I open carry my sidearm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest &#8212; yes, it probably was a publicity stunt.  Yes, he was an attention-seeking whore.  However, I still feel that he was exercising his right to Free Speech.  If you listened to the video, he asked three distinct questions:</p>
<p>1) Why did you conceed the presidential elections with 5 million votes uncounted for?</p>
<p>2) Why don&#8217;t you support impeaching President Bush?</p>
<p>3) Isn&#8217;t it true you were a part of the same secret society as George Bush?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s establishing the basis for a conspiracy theory and, not that I&#8217;m a conspirist, but these all sound like an example of redressing the government of grievances.</p>
<p>In the long run, it was a public forum on private property &#8212; even though he broke the forum rules by being loud and going over his time limit, that makes him an asshole, not a criminal.  The charges initially stated by the police officer on the video were &#8216;Inciting a Riot&#8217; leading me to believe that the police were reacting first and thinking later.</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;m not a big Kerry Supporter or Democrat (as this guy seemed to be); however, I feel what he did is a valid form of protest.  Having become somewhat of a Second Amendment activist myself recently, I&#8217;m willing to afford someone the support of their constitutionally protected rights (as assninely executed as they were) as I would hope someone would offer me when I open carry my sidearm.</p>
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		<title>By: BobG</title>
		<link>http://www.commonfolkusingcommonsense.com/2007/09/19/andrew-meyer-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-28934</link>
		<dc:creator>BobG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent discussion can be found at &lt;a href=&quot;http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Lawdog&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent discussion can be found at <a href="http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> Lawdog&#8217;s</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Willinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Willinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long have you been a Jesuit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long have you been a Jesuit?</p>
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		<title>By: Shamalama</title>
		<link>http://www.commonfolkusingcommonsense.com/2007/09/19/andrew-meyer-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-28932</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamalama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not allowed to freely express his opinion?&quot;  Are you really an idiot, or you just trolling for responses?

There was nothing resembling civil discourse in his feeble attempt for 15 Minutes Of Fame.  This was not a reasonable man asking reasonable questions.  This was a punk that wanted public attention - and he got it.

It&#039;s obtuse to suggest that free speech means a person can take over whatever gathering they want to make a political speech. Forums have hosts and the hosts set the rules. When you don&#039;t follow the rules, you are trespassing and can be removed. People get removed from forums all the time for going off an a diatribe.

There are many students present at the event, people &quot;that have seen the whole scene&quot;, that are starting to make their voices heard, and most are saying this guy was acting like a jerk before he even reached the mic.

Go stand on a street corner, or a park, or start a blog, vlog, podcast, whatever - say anything you want. But, when you participate in a public forum there are always rules that can get you removed if you don&#039;t abide by them. If that weren&#039;t the case, the aggressive would control all forums and civil and polite citizens would be pushed out of public discussion - anarchy - THAT would be a real infringement on freedom of speech.

By the way, we don&#039;t live in a &quot;democracy&quot;, otherwise known as &quot;mob rule&quot;, and nobody with any sense would really want one.  We live in a constitutional republic, different from a democracy, joker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not allowed to freely express his opinion?&#8221;  Are you really an idiot, or you just trolling for responses?</p>
<p>There was nothing resembling civil discourse in his feeble attempt for 15 Minutes Of Fame.  This was not a reasonable man asking reasonable questions.  This was a punk that wanted public attention &#8211; and he got it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obtuse to suggest that free speech means a person can take over whatever gathering they want to make a political speech. Forums have hosts and the hosts set the rules. When you don&#8217;t follow the rules, you are trespassing and can be removed. People get removed from forums all the time for going off an a diatribe.</p>
<p>There are many students present at the event, people &#8220;that have seen the whole scene&#8221;, that are starting to make their voices heard, and most are saying this guy was acting like a jerk before he even reached the mic.</p>
<p>Go stand on a street corner, or a park, or start a blog, vlog, podcast, whatever &#8211; say anything you want. But, when you participate in a public forum there are always rules that can get you removed if you don&#8217;t abide by them. If that weren&#8217;t the case, the aggressive would control all forums and civil and polite citizens would be pushed out of public discussion &#8211; anarchy &#8211; THAT would be a real infringement on freedom of speech.</p>
<p>By the way, we don&#8217;t live in a &#8220;democracy&#8221;, otherwise known as &#8220;mob rule&#8221;, and nobody with any sense would really want one.  We live in a constitutional republic, different from a democracy, joker.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idiot is just a jack@ss, next time taser twice as much or just</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idiot is just a jack@ss, next time taser twice as much or just</p>
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		<title>By: somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the students protesting, that have seen the whole scene, may have a more complete view of the case. So don&#039;t be a joker and just accuse anyone. And DON&#039;T forget; he was not allowed to freely express his opinion. Is that democracy? I believe it&#039;s not.

someone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the students protesting, that have seen the whole scene, may have a more complete view of the case. So don&#8217;t be a joker and just accuse anyone. And DON&#8217;T forget; he was not allowed to freely express his opinion. Is that democracy? I believe it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>someone</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.commonfolkusingcommonsense.com/2007/09/19/andrew-meyer-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-28928</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officer Nicole Mallo is a longtime friend of mine, she&#039;s getting such a bad rap in this!  All folks hear about is the people who hate UPD and support Andrew Meyer but as more info comes out it becomes more apparent that he&#039;s a loon. I knew it from the beginning. We&#039;re in this to support Nicole all the way, she&#039;s a good person, a great cop and doesn&#039;t deserve the crap she&#039;s getting around the nation!

Thanks for posting about the incident!

Jess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officer Nicole Mallo is a longtime friend of mine, she&#8217;s getting such a bad rap in this!  All folks hear about is the people who hate UPD and support Andrew Meyer but as more info comes out it becomes more apparent that he&#8217;s a loon. I knew it from the beginning. We&#8217;re in this to support Nicole all the way, she&#8217;s a good person, a great cop and doesn&#8217;t deserve the crap she&#8217;s getting around the nation!</p>
<p>Thanks for posting about the incident!</p>
<p>Jess</p>
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